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distant group intention in a blinded

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experimental design was associated with

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increased growth but barley seeds in

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targeted vers non-targeted seeds

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secondly this effect could not be

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explained in terms of random selection

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of the targeted seeds over the

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experiments third over the six

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experiments distant group intention was

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associated with overall increase Bali

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growth in targeted non-targeted seeds

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compared with matched non intention

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control sessions just in general those

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seats grew more now because this

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comparison was not blinded a possible

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experiment effect cannot be ruled out

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however a quote anomaly or unexpected

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effect in the data emerged which had to

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do with a last experiment which was the

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Austin experiment it turned out that was

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the only experiment with a non intended

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day seeds overall were higher than the

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targeted seeds and non-targeted seeds in

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the intention day and it turned out that

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it was during that period of time that

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we were breaking the laboratory down in

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the last couple of days for construction

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to take place which meant there was

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other energy in the room sound and and

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so on and and that's the one case where

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there was a reversal to what the with

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the other groups showed suggesting that

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even if there was an experiment effect

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it going to be also be affected by other

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environmental factors and we'll see by

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the way in come in tomorrow when Joey

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Jones presents the the environment of

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the laboratory energetically can have

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effect on living systems now the large

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magnitude targeted effect in the healing

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touch practitioner experiment a couple

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of the absence of a spread of effect

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intention effect further suggests the

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importance of distant group intention

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one of the things that's that's very

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interesting about distant group

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intention is implicitly it's it's

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talking about some of the implications

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that Claude Swanson talks about with

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regard to synchronization and because

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when you have multiple individuals

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simultaneously putting their intention

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on a given object one could speculate

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that the group would have greater

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effects

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through some sort of a coherence or

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synchronized action conclusions

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obviously the quote opportunistic aspect

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of these six experiments is not ideal on

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the other hand they point out that these

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effects may apply in the real world at

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least the real world of conferences and

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secondly adding a second blinded

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experimenter would make it possible to

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run blinded control sessions as well in

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other words if we if we do this kind of

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work in the future we and we have to

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experimenters and they don't know in a

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given weekend what which whether it's a

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it's going to be an intention experiment

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or not then we can address the the

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spread of effect effect now a lot of

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questions to address including distance

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number of in tenders in a group the type

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of group such as healers and so on

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running skeptic groups which I really

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want to try someday and controls and

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nature of water itself and as you know

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there are there been studies in fact

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about about intentionality in water and

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the question arises what happens if

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intention instead of being sent to the

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seeds is going to be sent to water

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that's going to nourish the seeds and

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then that water is then given to the

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seeds and of course the seeds have not

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been selected until after the water has

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been energized so there isn't a compound

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there can we find that at least some of

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this effect is actually affecting the

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structure or the energy of that which

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which is water itself I must confess by

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the way that when I started these

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experiments despite having published a

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book summarizing a lot of research with

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local or you know fairly local either

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surprised by the potential robustness of

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a potential distance and tension effects

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if we have questions you're the first

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person in the width of time of the

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effect would be between the local and a

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non-local despair is it really better

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when you're closed um well looking at

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these data remember there was only six

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experiments and we looked at the

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distance effect and we also potential

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distance effect we also looked at the

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potential you know n of the group 100 vs

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500 or six seven tenders and there was

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certainly no statistical differences and

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no significant correlations but again

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so I really can't speak to that as far

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are we measuring growth or how fast

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they're growing the this engineers thing

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comes to mind is you know there's lots

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of people in this world who need more

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food and as this is this a way to get a

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higher yield of barley I think that

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would be the pragmatic future work but

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it either address whether it's just the

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speed of growth or the actual as

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something else well the way that we've

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measured measured it is a one time

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measurement after its bone for five days

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so from in that way you would say you

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could call it a speed of growth effect

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because they're growing more robustly

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vitality you know that becomes a that

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becomes a theoretical question but if

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the practical question is if you can get

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more Bali to grow in a quicker period of

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time for the same amount of resources

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that's a valuable thing for our society

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for the world aguirre I don't know if

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you're familiar with the name bill sweet

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bill sweet wrote a book called a journey

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into prayer about to Christian

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Scientists that wanted to prove that

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prayer worked this is in the 60s

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and they started doing research exactly

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or similar to what you're talking about

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they knew there was a placebo effect

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they knew that was with humans and so

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they wanted to use something that would

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not you know the placebo effect would

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not interfere with they got the same

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kind of results you're reporting here

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over and over again but they were

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rejected both by their religious

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community and by academia and their

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scientific community I imagine Larry

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Dossey knows more about this and I hope

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he will speak about it but they ended up

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after years finally starting to be

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accepted ended up committing suicide the

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two of them together really yes sir I

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suggest you check that book out there

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I'm probably glad that I didn't know

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about this before i started the research

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because i have no interest in follow you

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there footsteps you know it's a

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challenge if you do any of this with any

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particular religious persuasion if i did

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this as a fundamentalist Christian or a

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christian scientist or a Muslim or a

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Jewish person or whatever I went

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immediately beginning in I think even

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more trouble than just doing this in a

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quote secular fashion hi we have a/c

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testing laboratory and we've done some

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of this kind of work here in the Denver

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area hmm and one and I we can talk about

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but one of the questions I want to ask

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you is did you notice any increased

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actual germination percentage did more

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seeds actually germinate in in the

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trials where there was intention the

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answer is it looked that way but since

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most of our seeds germinated with this

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procedure there isn't much room for

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variability in that sense okay so it

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this is not the preparation in which

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you'd want to look at rate of

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germination because almost all the

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scenes Germany you know good 85 to 90